HomeMy WebLinkAboutJuly 5, 1983 Planning Commission Meeting
July 5, 1983
City Council Chambers
7:00 p.m.
MEETING CALLED TO ORDER
Chairman Frederick called the meeting to order at 7:07 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Present were Chairman Orrin Frederick and Commissioners Ginger Bitterling,
Virgil Elbert, Garth Ellard, Louise Novasad, and Charles Piland. Absent was
Commissioner Jerry Mattey.
Also present were City Councilmember Dewane Hood, City Administrator David
Kucera, Fire Chief/Building Official Don Paul , Planning Secretary Maureen
Tanhoff, and Planner Ron Hough of Rogue Valley Council of Governments .
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Commissioner Bitterling made a motion to approve the minutes of the June 7,
1983 Planning Commission Meeting as typed. Commissioner Ellard seconded the
motion. Roll call vote: Bitterling, yes; Elbert, yes; Ellard, yes ; Novasad,
yes ; Piland, yes. All of the Commissioners voted in favor of the motion, and '
the motion carried.
CORRESPONDENCE
No correspondence was brought before the Planning Commission at this meeting.
PUBLIC APPEARANCES
No public appearances were .made at this Planning Commission Meeting.
BUSINESS
A. Public Meeting for the Planning Commission to consider the request for
Minor Land Partition by George and Joanne Johns for land located at 5236
Dobrot Way, Central Point, Oregon further described as Jackson County
Map Page 37 2W 34C, Tax Lot 3800.
Don Paul read staff report dated July 1 , 1983, and presented the following
exhibits : Exhibit A - Minor Land Partition application; Exhibit B - Notice of
Public Meeting; Exhibit C - Preliminary Plat; Exhibit D - Legal description of
Parcel #1 ; Exhibit E - Legal description of Parcel #2; and Exhibit F — Legal
description of Parcel #3 .
, Mr. George Johns came forward to address the Planning Commission. He explained
that there are actually two tax lots included in his property with his home
situated on Tax Lot 3900 and consisting of nearly two acres. Tax Lot 3800
consists of three acres and is presently bare land which is more than he and
his wife can maintain anymore physically or financially due to the high tax
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rate on the property. Therefore, they are requesting to partition Tax Lot
3800 into three one-acre parcels . Most of the parcels on Dobrot Way are also
one acre in size. The water and sewer connections have been available for
some time as their land had to be crossed in order to furnish water and sewer
to the Scenic Village subdivision.
Commissioner Piland asked if some of the lots on Dobrot Way were smaller than
one acre. Mr. Johns stated that some of the lots on the east side may be
somewhat smaller.
Commissioner Ellard asked about the land that is due north of Mr. Johns ' pro-
perty parallel to the freeway. Mr. Johns stated that it was farm land belong-
ing to Mr. Bohnert.
Commissioner Ellard asked if ending the street will landlock any property.
Don Paul stated that the area that would be affected lies outside the City
limits and does not rely on Dobrot Way for access.
Commissioner Bitterling asked Mr. Johns if he had experienced any flooding
problems from Griffin Creek. Mr. Johns stated that his property is quite high
in elevation so flooding has never been cause for worry. Don Paul pointed out
on the map Mr. Johns ' property and indicated that it is approximately 25 feet
above Griffin Creek.
Commissioner Bitterling asked how long ago the sewer was put in. Mr. Johns
said it was around 1974-75 when Scenic Village was built.
Mr. Johns indicated that there would be no problem providing the 60-foot
radius for the turnaround as required by Municipal Code Section 16.12.050.
He also stated the required street improvements would improve his property also.
Commissioner Ellard stated that perhaps another condition should be attached
to provide a sewer hook-up for Parcel #3, which would have to be determined
after a survey of the property. Don Paul stated that Public Works Superintendent
Vern Capps had reported that the depth of the sewer fall at the end of Dobrot
Way is approximately three feet, which could be borderline.
Mr. Johns stated that Dobrot Way is a public road . Don Paul defined the
difference between a culdesac and a turnaround according to Municipal Code at
Commissioner Piland's request.
Chairman Frederick asked if anyone would like to speak in opposition to the
Johns ' request for Minor Land Partition. No one came forward.
Commissioner Ellard made a motion to approve the request for Minor Land Parti-
tion by George and Joanne Johns for property described as Jackson County Map
Page 37 2W 34C, Tax Lot 3800, with the conditions as follows : 1 . The
extended street be surfaced and maintained to match the existing street;
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2. The turnaround be a 60-foot radius as required by Municipal Code Section
16.12.050; 3. If the easterly sanitary sewer easement is used, the utiliza-
tion of manholes is to conform to specifications of the City of Central Point
standards ; and accept the findings of fact as presented by the applicant, and
adopt Resolution No. 74, A Resolution of Recommendation of Approval of Minor
Land Partition, to the City Council . Commissioner Bitterling seconded the
motion. Roll call vote: Bitterling, yes; Elbert, yes; Ellard, yes; Novasad,
yes; Piland, yes . Allof the Commissioners voted in favor of the motion, and
the motion carried.
B. Preliminary Development Plan Review - The Village Planned Unit Development.
Don Paul explained that Cornerstone Development Company has purchased The
Village property located in the 900 block of Hopkins Road and will be making a
presentation to the Planning Commission for a new Planned Unit Development.
The Planning Commission and City Council had approved a P.U.D. for the pre-
vious owners in 1980, at which time the project got to the point of installing
streets and underground utilities . Staff has not had the opportunity to review
the change between the-old P.U.D. and the P.U.D. that Cornerstone is proposing;
however, indications are that it is basically an increase in density from the t
previously approved 71 units to 76 units.
Patrick O'Neal , President of Cornerstone Development Company, came forward to
address the Planning Commission and presented the P.U.D. application fee of
$350.00. He also presented a site plan for the P.U.D. and described on a map
what the plan entails . He explained that escrow has not yet closed on their
purchase of The Village and time is of the essence as they would like to have
models for the development completed by October 15, 1983.
Mr. O'Neal stated that there had been a tentative plan to increase the number
of units to 96, but they ultimately decided that 76 would be more attractive
from an overall cost standpoint to their company and to the City of Central
Point. The plan has already received approval for electrical conduits , T.V.
cable, water, and sewer. He stated that the increase in units would be accom-
plished by adding an additional dwelling unit to five different buildings.
There would be no changes in streets , sewer, water, or storm drains . The plan
still contains numerous recreational facilities which will be improved upon
over the old plan. Three floor plans will be modified and the size of the
units will range from 996 to 1 ,459 square feet. They are adding a loft and
higher beamed ceilings to one model .
Mr. O 'Neal outlined his letter to Don Paul dated July 1 , 1983 addressing the
City's concerns in this matter. He stated that if two parking spaces were
required per unit, the entire project would have to be redesigned. Each unit '
will have a covered garage.
Don Paul asked Mr. O'Neal how they plan to address the common open space, and
how the maintenance of the storm drains will be provided for. Also, what type
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of homeowners association do they intend to form? Mr. O'Neal stated that once
they receive the necessary approvals through their budget process, they will
proceed with these matters . They will provide a total overlay for the City.
Commissioner Ellard stated that the storm drainage in that area has been a
problem and asked Mr. O 'Neal if any further investigations have been made
regarding that. Mr. O'Neal stated that there had been some work done across
the street which has helped the situation. The adjoining property to the west
still needs work.
Mr. O'Neal stated that a pathway would be available for additional fire access
by pulling out the metal tabs . The grass area would be set aside for additional
access at the back of the park area. Mr. Paul stated that the access for fire
equipment would have to be constructed with a hard surface for all weather
emergency access and must be 12 feet wide to be acceptable to the Fire and Police
Departments .
Mr. O'Neal indicated that they would be providing a great deal of recreational
facilities and they are requesting a waiver from Sections 16.20.III through
16.20.050 concerning park land dedication fees .
Mr. O'Neal outlined their intended time schedule. They hope to have four models ,
an office, landscaping, and the first parking lot completed by October 15,
1983. Bad weather is coming and they would like their buyers to be able to
close escrow by the end of the year.
Don Paul asked Mr. O'Neal what type of arrangements will be made for the main-
tenance of the recreational facilities . . Usually a homeowners association is
set up for this . Mr. . Paul informed Mr. O 'Neal that the City will need assurance
that the recreational facilities will be maintained. These items should be
addressed in the C, C and Rs for the final approval of the P.U.D. Mr. Kucera
stated that the general concept should be explained in the Preliminary Develop-
ment Plan. Mr. Paul stated that this is an outline development plan being des-
cribed tonight because staff has not received sufficient information on the
changes from the original P.U.D.
Mr. O'Neal stated that they intend to use the plans from the original P.U.D .
with modifications . He stated that they cannot complete the project within
their desired time frame if they have to start all over with the plans . Mr.
Kucera explained that City Ordinance states that an application is void after
one year and a new application is required. At this point, time-wise, as long
as everything satisfies the P.U.D. ordinance, the process can be moved along.
The plans will still need to be reviewed at staff level for recommendation to
the Planning Commission.
Mr. O'Neal asked if the approval given to the street and underground improve-
ments on the original plan was now considered void. Mr. Paul informed the
Planning Commission that the City had recently had the water and sewer tested
and it has satisfied Public Works Superintendent Vern Capps .
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Mr. Kucera stated that the process would take the same amount of time in any
case as there is no provision in the ordinance to allow for modification of a
P.U.D. To increase the density, as long as the developers are basing the
request on the substance of what was previously approved, there is not that
much to discuss. Mr. Kucera explained that when the first Final Development
Plan was being processed, the City allowed construction to begin at the same
time. That Final Development Plan is now unlocatable and it is staff's
opinion that the economy probably prevented it from being completed. The
ordinance requires renewal of an application after one year regardless of
what has happened. Don Paul pointed out that there is no record of any exten-
sions being requested.
Mr. O'Neal asked what the City's time frame is to accomplish the requirements
of the ordinance to approve the P.U.D. Don Paul explained that the next Plan-
ning Commission meeting will be August 2, 1983 to consider the Preliminary
Development Plan and make recommendation to the City Council for their meeting
on August 18, 1983. If Council approves the Preliminary Development Plan,
then the Planning Commission. will . review the Final' Development Plan on September
6, 1983. Upon Planning Commission approval that date, it would take staff less
than a week for plan review and the issuance of building permits. '
Mr. O 'Neal asked if any part of the time frame outlined by Mr. Paul could be
waived to expedite approval . Mr. Kucera explained that the problem Mr. O 'Neal
is facing at this meeting is that he is asking the Planning Commission, who is
unfamiliar with the project, to make a decision without the old plans avail-
able to them tonight. Staff was expecting the developers to provide a set of
plans prior to the meeting. Mr. Kucera asked Mr. O'Neal how long it would take
ahem to provide the information necessary for the Planning Commission to make
a decision. The Planning Commission could meet on July 19, 1983, but staff
needs time before the meeting to review the plans.
Mr. O 'Neal indicated to Mr. Paul that he had understood that the City already
had the plans he brought with him tonight as they are the original plans of
the first P.U.D. Mr. Paul stated that the City does have the plans, but they
need revised plans according to the modifications the developers are proposing,
such as how the expansions relate to any parking areas, etc.
The general consensus of the Planning Commission was to meet on July 19, 1983
to discuss this matter as there just isn 't enough data provided tonight.
Mr. O'Neal asked the Planning Commission to give him an idea of what they think
about increasing the number of units to 76 so. that if they are opposed, his
company will not be going to a lot of expense for nothing. Chairman Frederick
stated that he did not have any problems with their plans. The rest of the
Commissioners concurred. Commissioner Ellard reiterated that staff would need
sufficient time to review the plans to see how the ordinances are affected and
if some exceptions are necessary.
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Commissioner Bitterling asked if there would be flooding problems. Mr. Paul
stated that he certainly hoped not because the Kingsland Manor developers were
to alleviate some of the water problem potential as required as a condition of
the approval of their development.
Mr. O 'Neal stated that in order to meet their deadline of October 15, 1983 for
completion of the project, construction must begin by August 1 , 1983. Mr .
Paul stated that it was possible that final approval may be obtained by the
Council at their meeting July 21 , 1983, provided staff receives the appropriate
information by Monday, July 11 , 1983 .
Mr. Kucera explained that although the plans are basically the same as the
original plans, the increase in the number of units can affect the parking.
Also, nothing can be found that addresses park fees or the common area being
dedicated to the public or the homeowners association. The original project
was shut down prior to resolving these issues . A final document was never
submitted by the previous developers .
Mr. O'Neal asked Mr. Paul to what detail does he need the overlay concerning the
the modifications . Mr. Paul stated that every item in the P.U.D. ordinance must
be addressed including the common open space. Mr. O'Neal asked Mr. Paul if he
had any problems with the parking. Mr . Paul stated that at this point, it
looks satisfactory, but he still needs to see definite plans . Mr. Kucera asked
Mr. Paul if the P.U.D. ordinance allows for a variance on parking. Mr. Paul
stated he would have to research this and provide an answer at a later time.
Discussion was concluded with Mr. O 'Neal advised to supply all the necessary
information to staff by July 11 , 1983 to give sufficient time for staff to pre-
pare for the special meeting called for July 19, 1983.
MISCELLANEOUS
There were no miscellaneous matters brought before the Planning Commission at
this meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Piland made a motion to adjourn the meeting . Commissioner Ellard
seconded the motion. Roll call vote: Bitterling, yes; Elbert, yes; Ellard,
yes; Novasad, yes; Piland, yes . All of the Commissioners voted in favor of
the motion, and the motion carried .
Chairman Frederick adjourned the meeting at 8:25 p.m.