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Minutes
February 3, 1981 - Planning Commission Meeting
Central Point Council Chambers
I. The meeting was called to order by Chairman Hillyer at 7:00 p.m.
II. Roll call found Chairman Hillyer and Commissioners Havice, Freeman,
Hood and Himmelman present. Absent was Commissioner Novasad. Others
present were City Administrator Dave Kucera, Building Official/Planner
R.S. Ritchey, City Council Members Donna Higginbotham and Judi Miller,
Citizens Advisory Committee Chairman Grace Russell, Ron Hough R.V.C.O.G. and
Planning Commission Secretary Georg Stotler-de Ruyter.
III. Motion by Himmelman, second by Freeman to approve the Minutes of the
January 20, 1981 Planning Commission Meeting as written. Roll call
vote found all in favor, motion carried.
IV. A. No Correspondence
B. No Public Appearances
V. Old Business
A. Final Plat Review - Stonecreek Subdivision II, Farnsworth Drive
Building Official/Planner Ritchey displayed a full plat of Stonecreek
II; pointed out the area being considered at this meeting; and stated that all
changes required at previous reviews of the plat have been made and all conditions
set have been incorporated into the Final Plat now presented.
Commissioner Himmelman asked if the development of this area would result in
Annabel Smiths property being landlocked.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey stated that there is access to said property
however, if it were to be developed as a subdivision then access would have to
be larger than the existing.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey continued, stating that one change had been
made on the Final Plat that was not on previous plats and that the Planning
Commission would have to act on 8iis item. This was changing the name of 150 to
160 feet of Chicory Lane located within Stonecreek II, to Chicory Street.
Verlyn Thomas, Surveyor, 304 S Holly St, Medford, representing the applicant
stated that his office found that Chicory Lane was dedicated in 1910 and to
have the name of the street totally changed would be more confusing than
calling this one block length Chicory Street until such a time as the street
is developed to the north and connected, and then call the entire street Chicory.
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Chairman Hillyer stated that confusion can exist when two streets are similarly
named and to consider new people or visitors to the area calling for fire or
police protection only knowing it as "Chicory".
Verlyn Thomas stated that Chicory and Snowy Butte are such old streets that
most people know where they are.
Discussion.
Chairman Hillyer suggested that as Chicory developed it would become an
extension of Farnsworth Drive.
Verlyn Thomas stated that Farnsworth is basically a north-south street and
may lend itself better to the situation; and that a termination point for
Timothy can be shown on the Final Plat.
Commissioner Hood asked if the 20 feet shown on the plat as Chicory was in the
subdivision boundary.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey stated that the 20 foot right-of-way was not
0 in the boundary of Stonecreek II but that there was a 12 foot bermed and
planted buffer strip along that portion of Chicory Lane which borders Stonecreek
Subdivision.
Discussion.
Motion by Havice, second by Himnelman to approve the Final Plat of Stonecreek II
with the recommendation that Chicory Lane be named Farnsworth Drive as it develops.
Roll call vote found Chairman Hillyer and Commissioners Havice, Freeman and
Himmelman in favor, Commissioner Hood opposed. Majority in favor, motion carried.
B. Fence Alteration - Quality Insulation
106 Amy Street
J.C. Map Page 37-2W-10AA, Tax Lot 5400
City Zone/M-1, Comp Plan Designation/Light Industrial
Don McGrew, Applicant
Don McGrew, 1467 Gibbon Road, Central Point, Applicant appeared, stating that
they have had a lot of materials and fuel stolen from their yard and because of
the slats in the fence the vandals cannot be seen.
Chairman Hillyer stated that at the time the slatted fence was required by the
Planning Commission, she believed they were storing much more material.
Don McGrew stated that it was pretty messy then.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey stated that the property is zoned M-1; that
Section 17.48.030 states: "A. All raw materials, finished products, machinery
and equipment except trucks and motor vehicles shall be stored within an entirely
enclosed building or sight-obscuring, non-pierced fence not less than six feet
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in height;" and concluded, stating that as he interpreted this section if only
trucks and motor vehicles were stored outside, there would be no requirement
for a sight obscuring fence.
Don McGrew stated that they had some lath and chicken wire in a 15 foot by 15
foot area right behind the office, a trash dumpster and an engine in the yard.
Chairman Hillyer stated that the Planning Commission must go by the Municipal
Code, therefore the lath in the fence must stay unless only motor vehicles are
stored in the yard.
Commissioner Freeman asked if security dogs had been considered.
Don McGrew stated that it is necessary to keep dogs separate from everyone, all
the time, and that someone has to feed them 7 days a week.
Chairman Hillyer stated that she would like this to be conditioned to replace
the slats if materials were to be stored outside again.
Commissioner Himmelman stated that perhaps two fenced areas was not out of the
question, one slatted surrounding a small area of stored materials inside the
existing fenced yard.
Motion by Himmelman, second by Hood to allow the requested fence alteration as
long as the Municipal Code is complied with in that nothing but trucks and
motor vehicles are to be stored in the exposed yard. Roll call vote found
all in favor, motion carried.
C. 1068 Plan Review - Solar Greenhouse Addition
322 N Third St
J.C. Map Page 37-2W_3DA, Tax Lot 11800
City Zone/R-3, Comp Plan Designation/Medium Density Residential
Judi Miller, Applicant
Judi Miller, Applicant stated that this solar greenhouse will be primarily used
for heating and will have 55 gallon drums along the wall of the house, inside
the greenhouse, to store the sun's energy.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey presented the Staff Report stating that
greenhouses are permitted as an accessory to residential uses; and that issuance
of the Building Permit will be subject to Building Department review of load
calculations for glass roof panels.
Discussion.
Motion by Havice, second by Freeman to approve this 1068 Plan Review subject to
Staff Report. Roll call vote found all in favor, motion carried.
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D. 1068 Plan Review - Arcade Drive-Through
163 S Front St
J.C. Map Page 37-2W-10AA, Tax Lot 3900
City 'Lone/C-2, Comp Plan Designation/Commercial General
Harvey Hueners & Tom Wall, Applicants
Harvey Hueners, Applicant, stated that he has assumed control of the Arcade
Drive-In; would like to put in a drive-through with access from Front Street,
around the building through the alley and back to Front Street; that the worker
will control the cars going through the alley; and that there will be tables
inside as well.
Commissioner Freeman questioned the off-street parking.
Mr. Hueners stated that there will be parking under the canopy and on either
side of the lot.
Commissioner Havice asked about the people parked under the canopy being blocked
if there is a line for the drive-through.
Mr. Hueners stated that he felt there will be room.
Commissioner Freeman questioned the cars coming around a blind corner of the
building into the alley.
Mr. Hueners stated that a light system will be installed that will keep the cars
from entering the alley until an operator, who can see the traffic flow all
around the building, advances the car; and, that the operator will be in a bay
window to provide full vision.
Council Member Higginbotham asked if it would be possible to make the alley one way.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey stated that the Police Chief feels that one
way alleys are very difficult to enforce.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey then presented the Staff Report, stating that
the only alteration to the existing building is to install a pick-up/delivery
window and an intercom order station; that the Planning Commission should
determine if the use of the alley for this purpose is in the best interest of
the public; and, that the Planning Commission should establish a general policy
on whether or not to encourage drive-up windows.
Chairman Hillyer stated that she had a problem with the public right-of-way
being used for private enterprise and that she thought it should be maintained
for a public right-of-way.
Commissioner Havice stated that she had problems with traffic coming from the
south through the alley as it could create traffic problems.
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Commissioner Himmelman stated that she used the old restaurant and did use the
alley to exit, but turned away from the building; and that she also used the
alley for access to the car wash.
Chairman Hillyer stated that during Little League season she has often seen
15 cars leave the ball field and meet at this location.
C.A.C. Chairman Russell stated that no matter who ran the old restaurant, it
was always packed.
Mr. Hueners stated that this proposal was an attempt to please the State in
getting the traffic off the highway, but that he understands the Planning
Commissions concerns and will go back to the drawing board.
Motion by Himmelman, second by Havice to hold this application in abeyance until
further information is presented. Roll call vote found Chairman Hillyer and
Commissioners Havice, Hood and Himmelman in favor. Commissioner Freeman opposed.
Majority in favor, motion carried.
10 minute recess called at 8:25 p.m. by Chairman Hillyer.
Meeting called back toorderat 8:30 p.m. by Chairman Hillyer. '
E. Review - "All & B 1' Classifications of Non-conforming uses.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey read a description of "A" & "B"
Classifications stating that certain non-conforming situations should be given
preferred treatment simply because they are popular and useful and would be
given an "A" classification; that all non-conforming uses or structures not
classified "A" are Class "B".
Mr. Ritchey continued, describing the procedures for obtaining a "Class All
designation, stating that a written application would be required with the
burden of proof being on the applicant who shall submit findings and reasons
for the change in class; and that the filing fee, notice and hearings procedure
would be the same as for a variance.
City Administrator Kucera stated that Ron Hough had explained that the Zone Map
would be adopted first, then the City would classify all "A" & "B" uses, then
the procedure described by Building Official/Planner Ritchey would be used to
change classifications if warranted.
Commissioner Havice asked who in the City would be responsible for establishing
the classifications.
City Administrator Kucera answered that it would be the Planning Commissions job.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey stated that if the City classifys uses "A"
or "B", the Class "A" would not have to apply for a class change but it still
is a non-conforming use and under the present Municipal Code it could not be
expanded.
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Chairman Hillyer suggested changing the non-conforming use section to read "with
the exception of Class "A" designations."
City Administrator Kucera stated if the Planning Commission adopts this change,
the non-conforming use section would also be changed.
Ron Hough, R.V.C.O.G. stated that Staff would probably set criteria for "A" &
"B", based on individual merits; and that the whole purpose of the "A" & "B"
system is to try to maintain the stability of residences in commercial districts
so they are kept up or improved; and that we are trying to avoid the kind of
deterioration that so often happens.
Chairman Hillyer asked if it would not be easier to re-do the non-conforming
use section of the Municipal Code.
City Administrator Kucera stated that this change would probably be inserted
in the non-conforming use section as "B" uses would still be non-conforming.
Ron Hough stated that the "A" & "B" classification gives the City more flexibility
than straight non-conforming uses.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey stated that if a conversion or addition makes
the use less non-conforming, it can be allowed under present Municipal Code.
Chairman Hillyer stated that she still felt it would be putting a lot of power
in the hands of Staff or the Planning Commission or whoever ended up classifying
the uses.
City Administrator Kucera stated that the City has three choices: 1) Have non-
conforming uses, 2) "A" & "B" Classification System, 3) Allow any existing
building or use to expand; and that 1 and 2 will always produce conflicts
while 3 brings up the question, "why have zoning."
Commissioner Himmelman stated that she feels it should be a graceful change;
asked if residences could not be included as a permitted use if it were in
existence at the time the change occurs; and asked if the "A" & "B" system would
put a greater load on the Building Department.
Building Official/Planner Ritchey stated that the structures would have to be
inspected to see if they could be re-constructed; and that he also thought
adopting the "A" & "B" Classification System would give the Planning Commission
more flexibility than the present method of treating non-conforming uses.
Chairman Hillyer stated that criteria, the rules of the game, need to be
established to allow this to happen.
Ron Hough stated that every city in Oregon is going through this same process;
that 99 out of 100 will continue the non-conforming use and phase them out; and
that the intent of the "A" & "B" System is to defer the phasing out of a good
solid non-conforming use and allow selected uses to continue.
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The consensus was to embrace the concept of the "A" & "B" Classification System
and further consider said system after Staff develops criteria.
VII. Miscellaneous Matters
A. Corrections to the Minutes of the January 27, 1981 Planning
Commission Study Session regarding permitted and conditional uses
in the commercial zones were as follows:
1) 17.36.020(B)11, was not deleted, although shown as such;
2) 17.36.020(B)10, was deleted as a permitted use and added as a
conditional use;
3) 17.36.030, new and used car sales was added as a conditional use.
VIII. Motion by Havice, second by Himmelman to adjourn. Roll call vote
found all in favor, motion carried. Adjournment came at 10:02 p.m.