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Planning Commission Meeting Minutes
July 19, 1994 - Page One
I. MEETING CALLED TO ORDER - 7:05
II. ROLL CALL: Present were: Chuck Piland, Herb Farber, Candy Fish, Lloyd
Governor, Randy Graves (late arrival). Also present were George Rubaloff-
Planning Administrator, Larry R. Blanchard-Public Works Director, Mark
Servatius, Fire Chief/Building Official, Mike Cully, Building Inspectorand Cecelia
Gordon-Public Works Secretary. Karolyne Johnson had notified the Commission
that she would be unable to attend.
III. CORRESPONDENCE - None
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES - Commissioner Governor moved to approve the
Minutes of the July 5, 1994 Planning Commission Meeting correcting the above
omission. Commissioner Governor seconded the Motion. Roll Call Vote: Farber,
yes; Fish, yes Governor, yes, AND Graves, abstain, and the Motion passed
unanimously.
V. PUBLIC APPEARANCE - None
VI. BUSINESS
' A_. Public Hearing Review and Determination regarding zoning variance for
substandard lot size on property in the vicinity of Ash and 7th Streets.
Chairman Piland opened the Public Hearing.
George Rubaloff reviewed the Notice of Public Hearing dated June 29, 1994
including the Nature of Hearings, Criteria for Decision, Public Comments and
Summary of Procedure.
There were no conflicts of interest or ex-parte communication.
George Rubaloff reviewed the Planning Department Staff Report dated July 11,
1994, which included the Request, Standard, Criteria, the Land Use History,
Discussion and Conclusion and entered the following items into the record by
reference: Notice of Public Hearing, dated June 29, 1994, Maps, Variance
Application, and Public Works Staff Report, dated July 15, 1994. George also
read the following exhibits to the Commission and entered them into the record
as well: July 14, 1994 letter from the Lloyd Deweys concerning a request for
easements, a letter from Brad Owen dated July 17, 1994 stating opposition to
the project, and a letter from Fred and Ann Britt, dated July 18, 1994
expressing their concerns about the proposed structure.
Larry Blanchard, Public Works Director, had no additional comments other than
those listed in the Public Works Staff Report, but stated that he was available
to answer any questions or concerns from the Commissioners.
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William Mansfield, Attorney at Law, 313 S. Ivy, Medford, Oregon, representing
the applicant, came forward in support of the zoning Variance. He introduced
members of the Board of Directors for Habitat for Humanity, Nancy Fedder,
residing at 1883 Canyon Drive, Medford, Oregon. Ms. Fedder gave a brief
description of their organization, stating that they go into partnership with the
family to help them build a home. They also lend the family a loan at NO
interest.
Fred Phillips, 345 N. Bartlett, Suite 203, Medford, Oregon came forward to give
an explanation of how the organization came into possession of the lot at 7th
and Ash Streets. He stated that he had surveyed the lot, talked with City staff
in order to meet all City requirements.
Jesse Heller, 201 Stanford, Medford came forward. Mr. Heller is a retired civil
engineer who is on the Habitat for Humanity Board of Directors. He stated that
the applicant had agreed to give the City a 7' wide easement to meet all City
requirements, that the applicant had located the Dewey's water and sewer lines
for them, and would gladly grant the easement.
William Mansfield stated that the issue of a variance for the lot in question, was
the size of the lot, that the proposed structure met all other City zoning
requirements. He stated further that the project would be an advantage to the
neighborhood with no significant adverse effect, would utilize the property
within the zoning, that the lot is smaller than standard (not the proposed
project) and that the size of the lot problem was not self imposed that the
applicant had approached the City in good faith.
Lloyd Mann, 625 Ash Street, Central Point, Oregon (located 1 lot west of
proposed project) came forward in opposition to the proposed zoning variance.
Mr. Mann said that he felt the legal description of the lot (from Jackson County
Recorder's Office) was not correct because it did not match the old township
map. (1887). He also produced a letter dated February 7, 1977 from R.J.
SEE ATTACHED EXERPTS FROM TAPE
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July 19, 1994 - Page Three
Richey, then the City Building Inspector showing that the City recognized that
lot as substandard.
Mr. Mann also complained that someone trimmed the trees on the lot and left
and did not clean up the cuttings. (he passed some photos around to the
Commission).
Mr. Mansfield responded by stating that the Surveyor (Dick Bath) and their
Engineer for the applicant had surveyed the lot and were satisfied that the lot
did meet the legal description. He inquired if Mr. Mann's opposition had any
professional proof of legal description interpretations.
Larry Blanchard stated that the original lot description was recorded based on
the original plat map. However, when future subdivisions to the east were
developed, street rights of way were dedicated and could have changed the lot
dimension. Mr. Blanchard has reviewed the legal description and was satisfied
' with the lot description.
Commissioner Herb Farber, who is a surveyor, stated that if Dick Bath
established that the legal description of the lot was correct, then it is a valid
description.
Jim Hoiness, (Board Member of Habitat for Humanity) 888 Wilson Road,
Ashland, Oregon came forward to state that Pacific Power and Light had
trimmed the tree on the lot, and that if the applicant did not know they needed
to follow up. It was a matter of misunderstanding of who should have moved
the debris, and that this type of oversight would not happen in the future.
Rusty McGrath, 98 Freeman Road, came forward and stated issues are the size
of the lot. He asked, if we are opening the door for others if we approve this
lot size, and water and sewer lines on the property.
No one else came forward in support of, or in opposition to the proposed
variance.
Chairman Piland closed the Public Hearing.
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July 19, 1994 - Page Four
Commissioner Candy Fish stated that she knew of at least two other
substandard lots that had been created in the City.
Commissioner Randy Graves asked why the Commission was toiling with this
item, that all criteria have been met, there is no significant safety problems
unique to this lot, and precedents were set on undersized lots already built on.
He also stated that survey errors are made, that is why the variance process is
there to correct past errors.
Lloyd Mann, spoke out that he felt he had been insulted, and that he wanted
to comment further. He was informed that the public portion of the hearing
was over. Mr. Mann left the hearing.
There were no further questions,comments or concerns, Chairman Piland asked
if the-Commission was ready to propose a motion.
Commissioner Farber moved that they approve Resolution 296 for the zoning e
variance on the substandard lot size on property in the vicinity of Ash and 7th
Streets T37 2W Section 11 BB Tax lot 6100 on the condition that the written
easement for sewer and water be established upon Applicant's Findings and
testimony and City staff reports and subject to lines located upon the property
prior to issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy Commissioner seconded the
Motion Roll Call Vote: Farber. Fish Yes: Governor Yes and Graves. yes and
the Motion carried unanimously.
B. Review and Determination regarding an application for Final Plat on Unit No 4
of Forest Glen Subdivision located east of Bursell Road.
Herb Farber declared a conflict of interest as surveyor of the project and left his
seat on the commission and sat in the audience. There were no additional
conflicts of interest or ex-parte communication.
George Rubaloff reviewed his Memorandum of July 14, 1994 including the
preface, Decision Criteria, Background, and Review, and entered the following
items into the record by reference: Location Map, Application for Final Plat,
Resolution No. 286 approving Plan for Unit No. 4, Forest Glen, Copy of
Approved Tentative Plan for Unit No. 4, Resolution No. 293 approving
Subdivision Variance, Memo from Public Works Department dated 7/14/94,
Proposed Resolution Approving Final Plat, Proposed Development Agreement.
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Larry Blanchard referred to his Staff Report (Memorandum) of July 14, 1994
and stated that the requirements not covered under the letter of credit were
items m. which had been completed. and item n. that a letter was on file from
Rogue Valley Transit District waiving the need for bus turn-outs in this
development. The remaining item o. concerned the owner securing the
necessary easement to provide for a temporary gravel turn-around at the end
of Heather Lane was included in the letter of credit.
Herb Farber, 908 E. Jackson, Medford, representing the owner, came forward
to ask if the temporary turn around was still necessary, since there would be
a street cut through to serve the new Valley Point Subdivision. Herb Farber also
stated that the developer was negotiating with the property owner of the lot
where the street needs to cut through. Herb also stated that he believed the
amount of the bond would cover all the remaining contingencies. He noted also
that the bond is written for a period of 30 days, and therefore, the conditions
would all be met by that time.
There were no further questions or concerns expressed.
Commissioner Fish moved for approval of Resolution #297 for Final Plat on Unit
No. a of Forest Glen Subdivision located east of Bursell Road subject to the
conditions in the staff reports Commissioner seconded the Motion Roll Call
Vot • Fish yes* Governor, . yes and Graves yes. The Motion carried
unanimously.
Public Hearing Review and Determination regarding Tentative Plan Application
for Unit No. 5 of Forest Glen Subdivision located generally west of 1-5 Freeway.
George Rubaloff reviewed the Notice of Public Hearing dated July 29, 1994,
including the Nature of Hearings, Criteria for Decision, Public Comments and
Summary of Procedure.
Herb Farber declared a conflict of interest as surveyor for the subdivision and
remained at his seat in the audience. There were no further conflicts or ex-
parte communication.
Chairman Piland opened the Public Hearing.
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George Rubaloff reviewed his Memorandum of July 14, 1994, including the
Tentative Plan, Process, Standards, Land Use History, Zoning Review, and
Conclusion and entered the following items into the record by reference: Notice
of Public Hearing, dated July 29, 1994, Mailing List for Notice (100 Ft. radius),
Maps and Plans, Application and Public Works Department Staff Report dated
July 14, 1994.
Larry R. Blanchard stated that Green Park Subdivision #5 had been approved
last month with the condition that they jointly (see #12 in conditions in Exhibit
in the Staff Report dated July 14, 1994.) construct a box culvert across Elk
Creek with the Forest Glen #5 Developer.
Herb Farber, 908 E. Jackson, Medford, Oregon, representing the Developer,
came forward in support of the Tentative Plan Application. He stated that he
had been through the Public Works Staff Report and agreed with that report
except that Lot 195 should read a 20' storm drain easement and lots 164, 165,
and 194 should read 16' storm drainage easement.
Larry Blanchard stated that these revisions would be made to Item IN 2 in the
Staff Report.
No one else came forward in support of or in opposition to the Tentative Plan.
Commissioner Graves moved that they aoorove Resolution #298 for approval
of the Tentative Plan Application for unit No 5 of Forest Glen Subdivision
located west of 1-5 Freeway. Commissioner Fish seconded the Motion. Roll
Call Vote: Fish, yes; Governor, yes and Graves, yes, and the Motion carried
unanimously.
Commissioner Farber returned to his seat on the Commission.
VII. MISCELLANEOUS - Commissioner Fish had requested staff to look into the
Willow Glen project concerning the difference in the way the buildings looked
as they are being built, compared to the way they were represented to the
Planning Commission. George Rubaloff the project engineer (Multi-Tech)
intends to dress up the buildings with shutters on each of the windows. The
Commissioner concurred that this modification would be acceptable.
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Chairman Piland stated that there is an identical project in Salem, Oregon and
that shutters did make it look better. He also commended Commissioner Fish
for her perserverence in the matter.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Farber moved for adjournment, Commissioner Graves seconded
the Motion. All voted aye and the meeting adjourned at 9:37 p.m.
JULY 19, 1994 - PLANNING COMMISSION
EXCERPTS FROM TAPE 1, SIDE B
Transcription # 000 to Transcription # 608 - (45 Minutes)
Lloyd Mann's Stated Opposition:
Took exception to legal description of lot, eluded to permit being issued in
error. Talked about size of lot, history of lot, discussed a document from
R.J.Richey (Building Official in 1968) which denied a building permit for the
lot based on the undersize.
Mr. Mann also questioned the set backs, said he had done over 100 hours of
research in this matter. He said the County Assessor's description of the lot
is wrong.
He talked about R2-Zone Requirements - said that the lot did not have a 70'
aggregate width. He also discussed the 20' wide driveway in the side yard
on 7th Street. Talked about the danger of the intersection, that someone
could be killed. He also said that there was not proper setbacks from his
fence and admonished staff to "read your ordinances". He also said that he
felt the front of the lot would be the Ash Street side. Mr. Mann also talked
about the 20' setback from the property line, and that the judge will uphold
his findings.
(124)
GEORGE RUBALOFF explained the 20' setback was talking about the most
southerly line abutting Ash Street.........)
Mr. Mann referred to another ordinance "inner court access...CPMC
17.24.070(b)
PILAND - stop to read ordinance
(145)
GEORGE RUBALOFF - the standard in CPMC 17.24.070(b) refers to two
units (duplex) on one lot.
Lloyd Mann continues....you have to see the actual lot to see how much
room the house will take up on the lot.
Mr. Mann then talked about the trees being cut and limbs left on the lot, and
said he had pictures to show this debris.
He talked about the fact that the neighbors, the Deweys and he had been
maintaining the weed cutting, etc. on the empty lot.
Testimony Lloyd Mann-Page Two
July 19, 1994 Planning Commission Meeting
(180)
Mr. Mann said that Habitat for Humanity planned to build a house for a
family and that this would put children in the street, which would be very
dangerous. Also the driveway would cause the occupants to back out on to
the dangerous street.
Mr. Mann asked who the contractor of record was.
The answer was "Tom Malot".
Mr. Mann asked if Mr. Hoiness was a representative of Tom Malot7
Mr. Hoiness answered NO, that he was a representative of Habitat for
Humanity.
(207)
Mr. Mann stated that the application was signed by Hoiness, and that it
should have been the contractor. Mr. Mann also stated that there was not a
signature by the Building Official but initials of someone else.
(220) Mr. Mann asked that after Mr. Mansfield's rebuttal that he be allowed
speaking time to give his answers. He also stated that his insurance
company had written to him concerning the debris on the lot. He showed
photos of the lot to the Commission.
MR MANSFIELD's REBUTTAL
Mr. Mansfield asked to examine the exhibits presented by Mr. Mann.
Mr. Mansfield said that the applicant had applied for this building permit in good faith
and had presented their application for a variance going by all the rules and
regulations and that they were satisfied with Dick Bath's work concerning the
description and measurements of the lot. Mr. Mansfield stated that the opponent was
only offering his opinion and did not have the professional documents to support the
opposition's case.
CANDY FISH stated that she read and understood the legal description.
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Rubaloff stated that he could find all the references in the legal descriptions
except for two distances.
(315) Larry Blanchard stated that the original town plan was done way back when,
that street dedications either added to or took away property. I Lot
dimensions have not changed, just where they reference their point of
closure.
Candy Fish stated that we know where the street is.
Herb Farber stated that the description is valid, and was satisfied with Dick Bath's
credentials and statement concerning the lot.
Mansfield Continues - He addressed the Richey letter, and said that he agreed the
small size of the lot was a problem, that's why the applicant is asking for a variance.
He stated that staff said the lot width meets requirements, and as far as a child being
killed, (the health and safety concerns) that those concerns were addressed in Staffs
report and that staff did not list any health or safety concerns.
Lloyd Mann tries to speak and interrupts.
Chairman Piland instructs Lloyd Mann to let Mr. Mansfield continue.
Mr. Mansfield addressed the debris issue and said that the mistletoe and dead branches
were removed from the trees were by PP&L and that the Habitat for Humanity did not
had assumed that PP&L had removed the debris from the lot. He stated that when the
Applicant was informed of the condition of the lot, the debris was removed the
following day.
Mr. Mansfield stated that as far as the issue of backing out of the lot, most of us back
out of our lots onto the street.
Mr. Mansfield stated that Mr. Hoiness was representative of owner on the Building
Permit.
Lloyd Mann interrupted again, repeating his concerns about initials on the building permit and
was cautioned by Chuck Piland to Not interrupt Mr. Mansfield .
Mike Cully, City Building Inspector stated that it is common practice throughout the
State for designated staff to sign on the line as representative of City Building
Official.
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(495)
Lloyd Mann took the floor once more and stated that he was disappointed
with City Staff. He stated that he assumed the old township map was valid
since it was surveyed and platted, he then referenced the proportion of the
lot.
Mr. Mann also stated that he was not a surveyor, but that he had common
sense, and that a citizen should not be put down even though he may not be
a professional.
CANDY FISH stated that the lot in question had somewhat the same measurements
of Lloyd Mann's lot.
Lloyd Mann answered that his lot is an inside lot, and that he had more yard
room
(540) Lloyd Mann stated that he did not have a problem with building a house on
the lot, but he had a problem with them building on a lot that was not big enough
1 for a 3 bedroom home, and would be better for a 1 bedroom retired couple's home.
MANSFIELD - HAD NO FURTHER REBUTTAL
Lloyd Mann stated that Mr. Mansfield had all those professional engineers.
Lloyd Mann also stated that if his word as a public citizen is not as good as
theirs, let him know right now, and he would be out of this, and the City
would hear from his attorney.
Lloyd Mann further stated that Mansfield referenced that the City should
take the Applicant's word over his. Lloyd Mann said also that Mansfield
implied that Lloyd was an idiot and they are professional......
END OF MR. MANN's TESTIMONY