HomeMy WebLinkAboutPlanning Commission Minutes - November 5, 2002City of Central Point
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MEETING CALLED TO ORDER AT 7:00 P.M.
II. ROLL CALL:
Chairman Chuck Piland, Rick Perry, Candy Fish, Paul Lunte, Wayne Riggs and Don Foster
were present. John LeGros was absent.
Also in attendance were Tom Humphrey, Planning Director; Matt Samitore, Community
Planner
III. CORRESPONDENCE
There was no correspondence.
IV. MINUTES
Commissioner Fish made a motion to approve the minutes from the October 1, 2002
meeting as presented. Commissioner Riggs seconded the motion. ROLL CALL: Perry;
yes, Fish, yes; Lunte, yes; Foster, yes; and Riggs, yes. Motion passed.
V. PUBLIC APPEARANCES
There were no public appearances.
VI. BUSINESS
A. Public hearing to review an application for twelve residential homes to be
included as an additional phase of the Cedar Shadows Planned Unit
Development. The subject property is located near the intersection of
Freeman Road and Shadow Way inthe R-3, Residential Multiple Familyzoning
district on Map 37 2W 11 BA, Tax lots 8600, 8800 and 8900.
There were no conflicts of interest to declare, or ex-parte communications.
Matt Samitore, Community Planner, presented the history ofthe CedarShadowsarea. In 1997 and
1998 it was developed under two different applications. One being the Mock partition, which
subdivided 2 of the 3 lots. The Mock partition, was a joint application with Parthenon Construction
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to develop the Cedar Shadows PUD, which was dependent upon a private access road. There was
an approval through the PUD process to construct a private road. Part of the condition of that
approval was to allow the Mock properties to access Shadow Way.
The current property owners Darren Lecomte and Chris Adderson own a portion of Shadow Way,
part of the tax Pots actually extend into the road. Although the owners development was originally
submitted in two applications, they were asked by the Planning Department to consider a joint
PUD expansion. They both agreed in favor of that idea, to give them the design flexibility, set back
flexibility and to create a neighborhood very similar with Cedar Shadows PUD.
The Planning Department is processing the PUD, because of the uniqueness of this development.
It has a creek running along one side of the property, is R-3 zoned, fronts a secondary arterial and
a private street. There is also a significant grade change from Freeman Road. Under the Cedar
Shadows PUD, they would be able to do zero lot line detached houses with 5 foot setbacks on the
other side. If they desire to have doors or windows to open out to the other side, there is a 3 foot
set back. They are not asking for any changes from those set backs with the exception of one lot.
Some of the homes will be Craftsman style,and some wilt be townhouse style, that are similar to
Cedar Shadows across the street. There will be a 12 foot right of way dedication along Freeman
Road, which is similar to the Mountain View Piaza and Cedar Shadows, Phase ll developments to
allow for future expansion of Freeman Road.
This proposed development follows Mingus Creek, and does pose some problems. No structure
can be built within 25 feet from the top of stream bank, however this does not include driveways.
This would make this development a first where the developers use some design creativity for
private access roads next to the creek. There will be landscaping next to the creek, including the
planting of trees and shrubbery for creek stabilization.
Mr. Samitore discussed the FEMA study currently being conducted by Northwest Hydraulic
Consultants. If the study finds that there has been significant changes in the base flood elevation
all of these homes will have to be constructed to the minimum FEMA standards and the City of
Central Point uniform building codes.
Mingus Creek Estates can form their own Home Owners Association independent of the Cedar
Shadows Home Owners Association. However, an agreement must be made between the Cedar
Shadows Home Owners Association forfuturemaintenance ofShadow Way. This agreement must
be in place prior to the final plat application.
Cedar Shadows was built with a private storm drain facility. The applicants can either hook into the
private storm drain system of Cedar Shadows, or they can design their own storm drain system,
that drains into Mingus Creek.
Jackson County Roads has submitted a letter with their only recommendation being that there is
no more than one access road onto Freeman Road. Freeman Road is going to be a very heavily
traveled road in the future.
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The applicants are proposing twelve tax lots which range in size from 2,500 square feet to a little
over 4,000 square feet. This is very similar to what has already been built in the Cedar Shadows
PUD. Each unit will have a two car garage. Mr. Adderson has asked for a five foot setback (rather
than the normal 10 foot setback) for Lots 1 and 12, along Freeman Road, due to the large right
of way dedication on Freeman Road. This is the only change within the PUD expansion.
The Fire District stated that they need a minimum 20 feet of open space to be able to park a large
vehicle to gain access to lots 9, 10 and 7. They do not need to add more fire hydrants due to the
existing infrastructure.
Commissioner Fish, stated that there is a lot of existing fill dirt that was added to this area from the
Meadows when Mingus Creek had been moved, back in the 1970's. The developers currently have
equipment on site to remove this dirt. The intention is to have the grade match Shadow Way as
much as possible.
Chairman Chuck Piland, asked if the expansion for Freeman Road, included 2 drive lanes, a
center turn lane, and a bike path. Mr. Samitore explained that was correct, but that generates
some issues for on street parking on Freeman Road when the expansion occurs. Currently on
street parking for Freeman Road is allowed, once expanded it would not be allowed. There are also
some restrictions for on street parking on Shadow Way. Parking is allowed inside the
development within the parking area, but this is limited to existing residents. Chairman Chuck
Piland, feels that putting twelve units in, without allowing on street parking, will create parking
problems. Commissioner Fish, added that there will be two car garages though.
Darren Lacomte stated that everything Mr. Samitore said sums up what the developers are trying
to accomplish. He is not in favor of apartments, and after looking at this site, it became clear to
him that apartments did not fit into the surrounding area. Mr. Lacomte wants to provide affordable
homes in the $130,000 - $140,000 range, and the landscaping will certainly be planned
accordingly. Mr. Lacomte then discussed the setbacks required in a PUD, and will continue to
move lines around a little to make the houses fit on the lots as best as possible to offer some more
space in the yards. Mr. Lacomte is also very willing to look at other possibilities to avoid having
vehicles backing out onto Freeman Rd.
When looking at lot 1, the problem that existed with access off of Shadow Way is that it would not
have any back yard. If a set back of 5 feet was given on the Freeman side then there would be a
sight distance triangle problem. That was the reason the developers accessed it from Freeman
Road. Mr. Adderson said that he and Mr. Lacomte could look at the configurations and try access
off of Shadow Way. Chairman Piland asked Mr. Adderson and Mr. Lacomte if they had come
up with any ideas during discussions back and forth on the driveways where residents would have
to back onto Freeman Rd. There was discussion about the driveway for lot 1 coming off of
Shadow Way, rather than Freeman Rd. Chairman Piland, asked if we would run into fence
problems later on down the road. Mr. Samitore said that yes there would be problems, and it was
decided to allow the house on lot 12 to have a 5 foot setback, on the Freeman Road side, would
make a 6 foot fence permissible.
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The question of open space was raised. Mr. Samitore explained that open space is usually a
component of a PUD. In this case, with the landscaping that is going to be done next to the creek,
there will be more than the 2,000 square feet of open space.
Commissioner Fish asked if there were going to be some home design examples when the final
development plan is brought in. Mr. Lacomte said that he would do that and assured that he plans
on making a very good statement with this development.
Chairman Piland, asked if anyone else had any comments regarding this application.
Darlene Turner, President of the Homeowners Association for Cedar Shadows introduced herself
and John Lean, a tenant across from proposed lots 4, 5 and 6. Darlene explained that they had
CC and R's and a homeowners association in place, they intend to protect their interests. As
members, they welcome this development, but want to iron out any concerns or problems before
they arise. Their main concern is the parking. Right now there are 19 homeowners out of a
proposed 29. They have an extra parking lot with 12 - 14 spaces in addition to 2 car garages and
driveways. Darlene stated that on weekends this extra parking lot is always full. Darlene feels that
Mingus Creek Estates should have extra parking also. Darlene wants to get together with the
developers to address the parking issues, entrance signs, lighting and landscaping. Mr. Lean then
asked why it had to be two separate home owners associations rather than just combining into one.
Mr. Samitore explained that it does not have to be that way. Mr. Lacomte said that after reviewing
the CC and R's for Cedar Shadows, he would like to have one cohesive plan between the two.
Mr. Lean thanked the Planning Staff for their recommendations and listening to them. Mr. Lean
also wanted to discussjoint maintenance forShadow Way, along with the possibility compensation
for the use of Shadow Way.
Mr. Humphrey explained that if the Planning Commission was to grant approval tonight, everyone
would have a minimum of six months or more with extensions, to get together and agree on all of
these concerns. During this period we expect to see the maintenance agreements worked out, and
the development of CC and R's . This is the time that these issues would be negotiated.
Commissioner Fish commented on lots 4,5,7,8,9,10 and 12 only having 2 car garages with short
driveways. Mr. Lacomte said that even though the driveways meet the criteria as is, he is adjusting
some lot lines, and will come up with a few ideas for adding more parking spaces.
Chairman Piland wants Mr. Adderson and Mr. Lacomte to address lots 1 and 12, along with the
concerns for off street parking, and about common CC and R's.
Mr. Lacomte closed by addressing the shared maintenance of Shadow Way, and stated that it is
a condition of approval, so that has been resolved. Compensation for access use of Shadow Way,
was not a condition with the purchase of his property. Mr. Samitore added that this road was part
of the overall development plan for Cedar Shadows and the PUD, could not have been developed
without the Mock Partition giving up land for the roadway.
Commissioner Fish made a motion to adopt Resolution 557 approving the Preliminary Site
Plan of 37 2W 11 BA, Tax Lots 8600, 8800 and 8900 subject to the recommended conditions
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of approval, with a minimum of 5 foot side yard setbacks, and recommendation for the
developer to increase off street parking. Commissioner Foster seconded the motion. ROLL
CALL: The motion passed unanimously.
VII. MISCELLANEOUS
Mr. Samitore passed around a memo from Nancy Hanson, Park & Recreation coordinator. This
memo invited members of the Planning Commission to attend a meeting regarding the skateboard
park on November 6 at 5:OOpm..
Chairman Piland asked about the upcoming agenda. There are 4 or 5 items coming up for the
December 3`d meeting.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Foster made a motion to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Riggs
seconded the motion. ROLL CALL: Motion passed unanimously. Meeting was adjourned
at 8:35 P.M.